Ninja Mountain Podcast #18 - Adventures in Colors and values

It's a long one today, as we talk about color and value. Ralph, Andy, Socar, Patrick and Jeremy take us through an admittedly introductory discussion about the nuts and bolts of these vast subjects, as well as a few of our normal detours into areas unknown.


http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain018.mp3

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Show notes:

WiP Podcast
Big Illustration Party Time Podcast

Rendering in Pen and Ink, Guptill

Rendering in Pencil, Guptill (out of print, buy it used!)

Unseen Shadows: 50 cover concept illustrations, Steranko (expensive but hey, you're worth it!)
(And it's up on ebay right now!!)

Blue and Yellow Don't Make Green, Wilcox

Ninja Mountain Podcast #17 - Barely legal internet action

All the aspects of Internet relations, web behavior and our online personae are discussed in this episode, with Andy, Socar, Patrick, Jon and Jeremy. How do we approach this big wide world of web? Well, you may hear something new and perhaps even entertaining as we tackle a subject as huge as Cyberspace itself!

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain017.mp3

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Show Notes:

Pulp Art: Original Cover Paintings for the Great American Pulp Magazines

Ninja Mountain Podcast #16 - A bargain at half the price

This week it's question and answer with the panel as they wrestle some thorny beasts provided by Jon's Facebook friends and rpg.net! "What brushes do you use in Photoshop?","can you give me email addresses of your favourite clients?", and "will you do me some work pro bono?" are all questions which will not be answered. Instead Ralph discusses shooting day for night, Jeremy shoots a man in Reno just to watch him die, Socar brings sexy back, and Jon edits the whole show to make himself seem much funnier than he actually is. As ever.

Actual questions covered: Bulk pricing? How many revisions? Why art? What music do you work to?

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain016.mp3

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Show notes to follow.

*Hey Kids! Check out Patrick's blog post today for the background and history of the Mountain: Ninja Mountain, the awful, terrible truth.

Ninja Mountain Podcast #15 - Cue the music!

In what is quite possibly our wackiest episode ever, Socar, Jeremy, Jon and Patrick attempt to discuss several important and weighty topics while trying not to laugh too much. Where do we see ourselves in the future, and how will we make it happen? What areas do we need to work on artistically and why? Can we manage to stay on topic for more than a minute at a stretch and why not? All these questions and more will probably remain unanswered in this senses-shattering FIFTEENTH episode!

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain015.mp3

I tunes, You Tunes, we all scream for iTunes!


Show Notes

Ramen Home Page
Potted Meat food products (The one Patrick mentioned didn't have a brand name on it...)
Socar's goal
Scott Purdy's GOBLINOIDS!

** Quality Assurance note! There were some sound issues around 50 minutes in on this episode, where Socar was dropped out. We've been working on that and a fix will be up soon. So if you have the version where you can't hear some of the dialog, try re-loading after 8:30 Pacific time May 8. Thanks!

Ninja Mountain Podcast #14 - doing it in style

Hello all you artist-listening people! We're a little bit late this week, but we think it will be worth the wait, as Jeremy and Patrick are joined by South American Ninja Sam Araya and returning Ninja Anne Stokes. Our discussion concentrates on the care and feeding of your personal style. Can you work on it, and if so how? Can you change it around for different jobs, or do you want to? Also, we touch on the topic of the most important or memorable critiques we've received. Interesting stuff all around!

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain014.mp3


Or find us here on iTunes!

Show Notes

Sam Araya
http://paintagram.blogspot.com/
Alla Prima: Everything I Know About Painting, by Richard Schmid
Joel-Peter Witkin
Fantasy Art Techniques of Tim Hildebrandt


Spyder3 pro

** We apologize for the slightly baddish sound quality here and there this time out. Skype was not our friend this day! We think that if you stick it out through the sound issues you'll have almost as much fun as we did.
-Patrick

Ninja Mountain Podcast #13 - Ninjapocalypse NOW!!

In the above image we see Patrick editing the podcast.

Welcome to a very special episode of Ninja Mountain, as we introduce long-time Ninja Mountaineer Socar Myles! First up, Andy, Jeremy, Patrick and Jon talk about the things that have influenced their art outside of other art - mostly movies and literature. (We'll admit there's not a lot of hard-hitting educational content in this one, but at least we had fun...) Next, Jeremy and Patrick join Socar in a discussion about illustration, commissions, world travel, pen nibs, and anything else they happened to stumble across in the course of their conversation. A splendid time is guaranteed for all!

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain013.mp3

And inevitably, iTunes!


NB: Right near the end of this cast there are a couple of skype IM "pings". You're not going mad if you hear them and get totally confused by the fact you're not actually being pinged. One day the whole panel will WEAR SOME DAMN HEADPHONES OMG!




Show Notes:
Socar Myles - gorblimey.com

Melissa Findley
Jan off of rpgnet
Casablanca
Citizen Kane
7th Voyage of Sinbad
Zardoz

Socar in Spectrum - medium: "blow": The Rat Queen's Wedding Party

Skeleton fight!!

By way of explanation, in essay form...

Hey Gentle Readers, its Jon here using the ninjatextophone over the interwebs.

I wanted to take time out of the regular glee surrounding the podcast to offer some explanations of a fairly weighty nature. Weighty to me at least.

So, over on iTunes we've been receiving week on week some really great reviews and feedback, which is just wonderful, and warms the cockles of my cold black flinty heart. Seriously, hearing that people are getting something out of our larking about and rambling story telling is really great. Just this week though the inevitable happened. We got our first negative review. Now this in itself is not a problem. I (and the other guys) actively encourage people to express any concerns they have about the show and offer any tips on how people think we can improve what we're doing here. And heck, everyone has an opinion and I think that's really important. I'd hate to feel we had some kind of happy bandwagon and no one dare say anything negative. Anyone who knows me will be well aware I'm far too bloody awkward to hold that kind of position!

So we got a negative review. It had to happen. But in this review there were a couple of points that I personally felt needed to be addressed. I would have been content to just pass it by without comment, but a regular listener had emailed me last night expressing concerns. So I felt the need to make some comment here. Not to engage in some battle of wits over the Internet with a stranger who doesn't like our podcast, but rather to reassure our regular band of listeners about a few things. Since we can't actually discuss via the medium of iTunes - negative reviews just stay there, unfiltered and undiscussed I've brought it here to the Scrolls. I'm at something of a disadvantage too, since the review was posted on iTunes US store, and I can't see it, being in the UK. Luckily I have been sent a copy. Using this format of the blog at least allows some two way communication.



Firstly the topic of Illodeli.com was mentioned as a very negative thing. And that since three of our panelists are owner/investors/exhibitors in Illodeli that makes us hypocrites for suggesting working for very low wages is a bad thing, since the prices for work on Illodeli are low. For those of you out there blissfully unaware of what Illodeli.com is, let me explain. Myself and a few other artists noted that we had a growing collection of work we owned the rights to, either from negotiating first rights deals with our clients, or by virtue of it being old practice work, or new experiments. Or just things we painted for the heck of it. At the same time we were all aware that there is a segment of the gaming and novel publishing world which has incredibly low budgets, and relies on paying freelancers very low rates or uses clip art. Also we noted there's a growing-pains area for such small publishers where they have a modest budget to spend but not enough to really pay for pro level cover work, for example.

So these two things dovetail together very nicely. Through much wrangling of code, huge amounts of testing and general toil we set up Illodeli.com. A site where publishers with low budgets can go and pick up non-exclusive, one time usage rights to these pieces, for a suitable low budget price.

Now in the review I'm addressing we have been accused of being part of the general downturn in illustration rates (which I'm personally not seeing by the way, but we'll accept that point for a moment) and worse that every time we sell non-exclusive one time usage to our existing work we do a freelancer out of a commission. To me this is not an accurate observation, though I do understand the concern. Firstly as a ground rule of the site we have never advertised directly where freelancers go to get work. That would not be ethical in my mind, since Illodeli is a very different animal to freelance. Secondly, and this is where I am at something of an unfair advantage having access to our customer records at Illodeli, our customers I can categorically state are not choosing between spending $600 to $1600 for a cover commission and Illodeli. People with that kind of money are my customers in my freelance capacity, and I certainly wouldn't want to compete with my own core business. There is no overlap.

Illodeli provides a place where I can point those publishers who frequently offer me very small amounts for illustration work. This has been an on going issue for me - getting offered $100 for cover work, or $100 a page for internals. Those rates aren't ones I can consider, and its been really nice to say "Hey, you don't quite have the budget to get me bespoke and exclusive, but check out this other work at prices which matches your budget". Rather than just "No".

That low budget market isn't going away. Its well established. Personally I'm not a huge fan of clip art for a variety of reasons, so we don't do that at Illodeli. I'm even less a fan of freelancers working to very low rates for bespoke illustration on a work for hire basis. I think its pretty distasteful and unnecessary for more reasons than I have space to go into here. So at Illodeli we're strictly non-exclusive, one time usage. And that doesn't suit anyone with significant budget to spend. If you have the quoted $600 to $1600 then you want bespoke work, you want at the very least first rights, if not all rights or work for hire. Illodeli doesn't provide that, and so doesn't compete in those markets.

I'm sorry that was so lengthy, but this is something we spent a great deal of time discussing at the project's inception, and continue to position in the most ethical way we feel we can. As professionals the market is important to us, and after much consideration we do not feel we are damaging it by offering what we offer. Rather it is a totally distinct business strand for a pretty distinct section of the market. Those publishers publishing on a shoe-string are not going away. And if we can both make a little coin from the work that would otherwise sit idle on our hard drives, and offer an alternative to employing freelancers on an utter pittance then we figure that is a good thing.

With that in mind it was probably a mistake for me to have ever mentioned it on a freelancing podcast. The context it came up in was the insight it has given to me with regard to the nature of unsolicited submissions to art directors. Rather than any kind of advert for the site. Seen in those terms I think it was a useful thing to talk about.




The second issue which I wanted to address, and congratulations to anyone still reading, is that we make the podcast to advertise ourselves. Now I can't entirely dismiss this. Of course getting your name "out there", and finding an audience as we have with some of the top ADs in the field is no bad thing. And of course the beauty of the net is that anyone can do the same should they feel the need. Its not like we're using up all the Internet doing this. Feel strongly that we're hogging the fantasy freelance airwaves with our misguided babble? Do your own one! That would be very very cool! That said, I can think of far far better, less labour intensive ways to advertise ourselves as artists. Primarily what we all as individuals do - send ADs submissions. I'd far rather write an email in ten minutes and send it to an AD I would like to work for than spend two hours recording, and three editing material which is arguably helping out our future competition. Really the podcast has a negligible impact as direct marketing. Sure, all these things add up - taking an active part in any community on-line increases your profile tiny notch by tiny notch. We're all making connections here. So I can't completely refute that we're loving the fame riches and numerous groupies that we have attracted over these 12 weeks. But come on. To suggest we only do this to cynically promote ourselves is way wide of the mark, and considerably unfair to boot.

Speaking for myself (and I know the other panelists feel the same, but I'll let them speak for themselves), I do the podcast out of sheer enjoyment. Its fun, its something of a hobby. I like goofing off with the guys and gals on the little stage we've built. None of us had come across anything like what we're doing for our little niche, and its fun. It is enjoyable to connect with all you listeners out there, its nice to feel like we're offering some insights, and maybe some help to our contemporaries and indeed neophytes. We have repeatedly mentioned how hard the market is, what a competitive field this is, and how some of us struggle. I don't think we're tricking anyone into becoming an illustrator, or thinking its an easy ride. Far from it. And this certainly accounts for our overwhelmingly positive response thus far.

Now those points addressed, I'm more than happy to accept criticism of the content, our voices, our opinions, the sound quality or anything else our listeners feel unhappy with! Engaging in this kind of endeavour is a two way process, and we want to know what you guys out there think, whether it is a positive or negative thing. I want to be very clear here that I'm addressing just the two points which I felt stepped into unfair territory, or general misunderstanding of what we're doing. I'm also motivated to take this up here where we can all have some input, rather than in the one way setting of iTunes reviews.

Ok, thanks for reading if you managed to find the necessary three hours to get through all that. This stuff is very important to me and the other guys and gals on the 'cast. I wish I could write with more brevity. And I'm sure you guys out there listening feel much the same when I'm speaking. Seriously though, this is important stuff, and I've chosen my words with care rather than to avoid verbosity.

Right off to edit the second half of the mighty Episode 13! "Ninja Acockalypse"!

Ninja Mountain Podcast #12 - Effortless efforts

Jon, Jeremy, Andy and Patrick talk about the effort put into illustrations, and how the time and money equation ties in to things. This leads into the practicalities of doing a good job on time, and somehow leads to a discussion on the fine art of the critique. Oh, who are we kidding - we're just all over the map this week. But it's a fun discussion, so please join us!

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain012.mp3

Or subscribe for free on iTunes!

Show notes to be filled as interest warrants:

Ninja Mountain Podcast #11 - Ninjas gone WILD

Welcome to episode 11 of the Ninja Mountain Podcast! This week you'll delight in discussion, debate, dialogue and diatribe. We can't think of anything you'd rather do with an hour and a half of your precious time than listen to Andy, Scott, Jon, Patrick and Jeremy ramble on about artiness - can you?

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain011.mp3

And we're totally rockin' the iTunes

Show notes:

Illustration Magazine
Illustration Magazine's Blog
What is Lager?
Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud
Comics and Sequential Art by Will Eisner
Graphic Storytelling & Visual Narrative

Ninja Mountain Podcast #10 - a Milestone!

Welcome to Episode Ten! They said we'd never make and by George they were almost right!

In this episode we see our giant ninja robot split once more into mini fighting units spread across the globe. Whilst Patrick takes a much-needed break, Jeremy, Kieran and Andy discuss working environments including Kieran's downtown studio of lurve, Jer's rickety lean to/basement and Andy's salubrious art boudoir with its wall of filth; Jon and Ralph almost open the digital vs trad debate but then don't really; and finally Britbot Ninjas Andy, podnoob Scott Purdy and Jon Hodgson talk about their development as artists and some of the stupid stuff they used to think compared to the stupid stuff they think now!

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain010.mp3

Its a smasher! And it's just as good on iTunes

Show notes will be forthcoming just as soon as everyone sobers up.

The Art of Spirited Away
Animation Backgrounds
Scott Purdy
The Brits wear these when they work...except Andy

A special note of thanks from a co-host to his co-hosts...

Episode 9 is here and Episode 10 is on the way this week---a milestone approaches!
So far we are having a blast creating this show and it's been great that so many folks are enjoying it and getting good things out of it.

Everyone who appears on the show from the core panel of artists to our regular guests and occasional special guests have given a great deal of their time and talent to making this show what it is...
An excellent resource for aspiring and veteran artists alike.

All of them deserve our thanks!
Regular panelists and co-hosts: Andy Hepworth, Kieran Yanner, Ralph Horsely, Anne Stokes, and Scott Johnson.
Special guests: Von Glitschka and Mattias Snygg
All have shared with us their experience, advice, and insight for which we are grateful.
They all give of their time and join us for recording sessions to produce each entertaining episode.

I also want to take a moment to offer special recognition to two individuals who work tirelessly to bring you each installment of The Ninja Mountain Scrolls.

Patrick McEvoy and Jon Hodgson. Their contributions to the show extend beyond offering terrific insights and advice ( along with doses of good humor) as co-hosts of the program.

Patrick organizes and records each episode and then prepares it for the web by hosting the program on his own web server in addition to uploading it to ITunes. He even prepares the show notes for each episode and posts the write-up to our blog!

Jon Hodgson provides back-up recording and shares with Patrick the task of producing the music and sound effects that you enjoy each episode. Both share a background in music and apply their talents to the show's sound design. Not to mention Jon's own special interviews with leading artists in the industry.

Without these two creators, Ninja Mountain Scrolls would not be the great program that it is.


Thank you, gentlemen, and thank you, once again, to all of our panelists and listeners for your support of The Ninja Mountain Scrolls. A podcast for artists and by artists.

---Jeremy

Ninja Mountain Podcast #9 - Spinning ideas into gold!

Well, it's that time of the week again. And this time out we have a very talkative group indeed - Patrick, Jon, Jeremy, Keiran and Ralph chat about the very big subject of getting ideas from your head and onto the page. And getting those ideas in the first place... And what happens when there aren't any ideas at all! Plus a book review and an exciting tool tip. Join us for a very special episode, won't you?

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain009.mp3

Or click here if iTunes is more your thang.

Show notes

Oblique Strategies: http://www.rtqe.net/ObliqueStrategies/
Jon's painting teacher from high school: http://www.chrisdaynes.co.uk/
JW Waterhouse: http://www.jwwaterhouse.com/
Leeds Royal Armouries: http://www.armouries.org.uk/home
Leeds UK?: link
Drawing Board?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drawing_board
Art Order! Art Order

Drafting machines?
Here's the kind Patrick has.

Here's the kind that attaches more solidly.


Patrick says: here's a great example of what I was talking about when you have a subject that isn't exactly scintillating, but you still need to do something to make it interesting. Here, I was given the assignment of doing this World of Warcraft card featuring a Shield on a warrior's back. The shield was based on a previous design that needed to be used, and the card had to prominently feature the item (it's an "item" card)

Now, this wasn't really much to go on, so this was a case where I decided to make the picture about textures and light, rather than action or story. And I think it came out OK - I tried to make the piece attractive by doing lots of shine, reflections and highlights on the shield contrasting with worn and textured armor and floor. So when I mention the "fine art" approach of adding interest to an illustration, this is what I'm talking about!

(This picture is copyright © 2007 Upper Deck and Blizzard, used by permission.)

-Patrick

Ninja Mountain Podcast #8 - Ninja Army ATTACK!!

This week we present an unstoppable ninja army so huge, so utterly without hope of containment, that we split it into three parts! Joining Jeremy, Patrick, Jon, Andy and Kieran, we also introduce Anne Stokes, Ralph Horsley, and Mattias Snygg. The first segment features Anne, Jeremy, Patrick and Kieran. The second part brings us Ralph, Andy, Jon and Jeremy, and the third is a one-on-one with Jon and Mr. Snygg. Enjoy the bounty!

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain008.mp3

Or do what the cooool kids do - iTunes!


Show Notes:
http://mattiassnygg.com/
http://www.annestokes.com/
http://www.ralphhorsley.co.uk/

Armor links
http://www.bestarmour.com/
http://www.mac-armour.cz/index_en.htm
http://www.armstreet.com/
http://steel-mastery.com/index.php?&model=cat_page&category_id=17

The Medieval Soldier: 15th Century Campaign Life Recreated in Colour Photographs

Ninja Mountain Podcast #7 - A guest!

On our latest artistic excursion, Jeremy, Kieran and Patrick welcome a special guest, illustrator and designer Von Glitschka. We talk about style and how to develop it, style and how to market yours, style and when to use one... well, you get the idea! Also some talk about comics, portfolios and silly names.

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain007.mp3

Or use the magical iTunes!

Show Notes:
glitschka.com
Freelance Switch!
The Mysterious fantasy artist that Von mentions...

The Art Of P. Craig Russell
Adobe Illustrator

Twitter is omnipresent:
Von Glitschka
Patrick McEvoy
Scott Johnson
Jeremy McHugh

Ninja Mountain Podcast #6 - Photo Ref & Marvel talk

Jon is gone for a couple of weeks, but in his stead we've recruited two - yes TWO - alternate Ninjas for duty. Let's have a big round of applause for Kieran Yanner and Scott Johnson!


http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain006.mp3

Or get it on iTunes!

This week's topics include photo reference, a bit of illustration history, freelancers on contract, a new book review, and some discussion about Scott and Patrick's work for Marvel (in broad terms so no one has to be killed for saying too much!)

Even though Jon was out this week, he did provide some new sounds and closing music - please enjoy!

John Howe Fantasy Art Workshop
Norman Rockwell official site
sketchup.google.com
www.daz3d.com

Scott Johnson - scottjohnsonart.com/
Kieran Yanner - kieranyanner.com/

Here are some examples of Scott's Marvel art:
Spider-Man
Marvel Montage
Marvel Universe panorama

Are you following us on Twitter?
Patrick McEvoy
Scott Johnson
Jeremy McHugh

See you next week!

Ninja Mountain Podcast #5 - Process talk

This week we talk process! How we do what we do when we do it. As usual, we can't stay entirely on topic so expect a lot of chat about what goes on in those feverish little brains of ours.

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain005.mp3

Get it on iTunes!

As always please feel free to let us know what you think. :)

The Notes!
Adobe Photoshop
Corel Painter
The ubiquitous Artrage

Rembrandt
Grisaille


Rodney Matthews
Patrick Woodroffe
John Howe
Jim Steranko
McHugh's blog


Frazetta books on Amazon.com

What Jon painted instead of concentrating on the show...

Things involving Patrick

Hi! Patrick here, posting about me...

First, if you're going to be at San Francisco's incredible WonderCon this weekend (Feb. 27 - Mar.1,) you might want to see my Digital Painting Seminar. I'll take an hour to give an overview of my digital painting techniques and chat just a bit with the audience.

The seminar is on Friday night (2/27) in room 204/206. I'll be working on a PC laptop instead of my usual Mac, so come and laugh at me as I fumble over the control keys!

Read more about it here - Scroll down the page to 6:00 PM to find me. See you there.

Also, I've been blogging about my favorite art technique books over on my Megaflow Graphics blog. If you're interested in that sort of thing click here to take a look!

Thanks, and I now return you to your regular Ninja blog, already in progress.

UPDATE:
Well! Other than the predictable problems trying to get the shortcut keys to work on a PC (I'm a Mac guy, so doing the translation on the fly had a few glitches!) it went VERY well. I have to thank the wonderful - and surprisingly LARGE - audience for their attentiveness, questions, applause, and laughing in all the right places. :) I think I will have to do this again some time. Maybe they'll want me to repeat this at San Diego? We'll see. Thanks to everyone there for making it a great seminar!

Ninja Mountain Podcast #4 - The Dreaded Dealines!

The Ninjas bring you an episode fraught with danger and intrigue! Can Jon finish his assignment in time? Can we segue topics without laughing about it? Can so many topics fit in one podcast? Find out this week in the Ninja Mountain Scrolls, episode 4 - this time it's personal!

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain004.mp3

iTunes is great as well!

This week, we start off with a discussion about deadlines - why are they important, how do you make them, and how does one juggle multiple jobs at once? We share our ideas on getting effective work done that's both good and on time. Then we start what promises to be a few segments on a big topic: Conventions! Love them or hate them, most artists in our line of work have to go to at least a couple a year. We get the ball rolling this time by talking about a number of different con-related issues, and even a couple of fun stories. As we roll in to the convention season, we'll have more on this in the future, for sure!

Show Notes:

Manga Studio
The Fantasy Art Techniques Of Tim Hildebrandt
Bluemoonrising.com

Here's a Yahoo group of artists who attend fantasy/SF art shows and other art events:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SciFiFantasyHorrorSpace_ArtShows/

Ninja Mountain Podcast #3 - Client Relations

It's our longest episode yet! Dare you enter... the House of Client Relations?

http://www.megaflowgraphics.com/NinjaMountain/NinjaMountain003.mp3

Or get it via iTunes

It's the usual group of guys (Andy, Jeremy, Jon and Patrick), tackling the big subject of what they broadly call "client relations": working out contracts, getting paid, "exposure deals" and other scary stuff. They also discuss the best method of figuring just how much you should get paid for a job. In addition to all that, they even find some time to review a couple of books, and give a recommendation on a Photoshop utility you might like.

So strap in and bite down hard on some leather. It's going to be a crazy ride!


Show Notes
Genuine Fractals
Franklin Booth: Painter With a Pen
Bernie Wrightson's Frankenstein
Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art

http://www.freelanceswitch.com/rates/


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Now that we're on iTunes...

As mentioned in the last post, the Ninja Mountain Podcast is now on iTunes! (Yeah, you can click it, you know you want to...)

So here's a deal: if you do us a solid by leaving a review there, we'll give you a shout-out on the next show! One of the most popular podcasts devoted to fantasy/sf/comics illustration today, we might add. (Well, probably the only one. But that's beside the point.)

In other news...

Patrick would like to say that, pursuant to the conversation about blogs on Episode 2, he's revamped his blog page. Go take a look! More actual cool bloggy stuff to come.

Also, you can follow Patrick and Jeremy on twitter:

Patrick's Twitter
Jeremy's Twitter

Stay tuned for the next episode. We should have that ready for you Thursday! See you then.